Podcast

DPW Amsterdam 2025 | Podcast

21 minutes

Description

DPW didn’t start as a polished brand or a five-year roadmap. It started with a risky decision, personal sacrifice, and a founder willing to burn the boats to see if an idea could survive. Matthias Gutzmann gave up stability, comfort, and certainty to build something from nothing, leaning on relationships, family support, and sheer persistence to get the first event off the ground.

Then the worst possible timing hit. Just as DPW found its footing, the world shut down. No events. No gatherings. No clear path forward. Instead of folding, Matthias pivoted, launching digital programs and virtual formats that kept the community alive while operating with almost no safety net.

What emerges is a clear throughline: DPW exists because the community demanded it and because its founder refused to quit when momentum disappeared. This is a candid look at what it actually takes to build something meaningful, not the highlight reel, but the uncomfortable decisions, quiet setbacks, and obsession required to push through when there’s no obvious next step.

Speakers

Spencer Penn

CEO & Co Founder

Key moments

From Brooklyn to a bedroom: The risky origin of DPW

Matthias Gutzmann shares the real cost of launching DPW, giving up his U.S. Green Card, his relationship, and his life in New York to move back home and bet on an idea. The first event was a true family operation, built on grit, relationships, and zero glamour.

The accidental future: Why there was no master plan

DPW didn’t start with a master plan, it started with survival. Matthias admits the second event only happened because the community demanded it, turning a one-off conference into something much bigger.

The worst possible timing: Surviving the pandemic

Just as DPW found momentum, COVID shut the world down. Matthias describes the brutal reality of keeping an events business alive when the one thing you sell, people gathering, suddenly became impossible.

The zero-cost strategy: How living at home saved DPW

When the 2020 event collapsed, Matthias pivoted fast, launching digital programs to keep startups and sponsors engaged. Living at home with zero expenses wasn’t glamorous, but it gave him the runway to survive.

The virtual lifeline: How DPW bounced back in 2021

The turning point came with DPW’s fully virtual 2021 event. It pulled sponsors back in and generated real revenue, proving the market hadn’t moved on.

The founder's fuel: Why passion is the only survival strategy

Matthias credits obsession as the only reason he made it through the hardest moments. Building DPW didn’t just test the business, it exposed how resilient he really was.

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