Spencer Penn sits down with Dr. Elouise Epstein, digital futurist and partner at Kearney, who has spent more than two decades advising companies on digital procurement and supply chain strategy.

Known for her direct style, dry wit, and aversion to buzzwords, Dr. Epstein brings a clear-eyed view of how procurement has evolved and where technology is taking it next.

They cover the echo chamber of consulting advice, what agentic AI can do today, how to incentivize procurement like sales, and how to attract the next generation of talent.